Reaper unneeded kickban for "decon"
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- epicaldude
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Reaper unneeded kickban for "decon"
Requesting:
[ ] ban/punishment
[ ] undo of previous decision / unban
[X] admin / [ ] user attitude adjustment
related to following bad activities in game:
[ ]base attacker: ( )kill RC/OM ( )killed important stuff ( )just bleed
[ ]team attacker: ( )killed with no reason ( )just bleed
[ ] glitcher: [ ]reached outside-map location [ ]others gameplay
[ ] cheater: suspected [ ]aimbot [ ]wallhack [ ] /msg spam [ ]other
[X] admin unwarranted (*) kick ( ) mute ( ) other
...related to what that Admin claims to be (*)decon ( )tk ( )other
PLAYER:
nickname: Reaper
level: [ ]dunno [ ] unregistered [ ]player lvl 1-5... [X]admin lvl...7?
other info: hi Lancer
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DEMO(s): probably not needed as there is detailed description
SCREEN(s): -
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DETAILS OF GAME EVENT:
ON DATE: 2012-10-21, TIME: 13:30 (GTM+2) ON MAP: Mission 1
With teams count (A-H) : 1 vs 2
-> mission1 starts, I bet people will vote other map
-> I decon egg, on this map I might as well do it, initial egs will die and Im alone
-> someone calls mapchange vote
-> I decon all but last egg.
-> mapchange vote will pass. I vote F2 for lol but it passes still
-> I decon last egg right before it passes and suicide
-> vote passed
-> Humans won
What might normally be a [bad] decon, is totally o.k. in this case, because:
1) decon initiall stuff on this fun-map is not any problem. I could build new eggs if by any chance more people would join or vote would not pass
2) map will change anyway
3) entire Aliens team agreed on this (me
4) entire H team also wanted change map
5) EDITED/ADDED: in the unlikely event that in 3 seconds someone joins and wants to play this map I was 100% of the time able to still return to normal game (build OM then eggs), right to the point when vote passed
Since there is no player that had any different outcome of game,
so this is "victimless" crime, so not a crime.
So kick/ban was not needed.
New admins, hold your horses with the new commands, k?
REQUESTED SOLUTION:
Lancer should join Iain and Tyr in that locker.
And write 100 times on blackboard "I will not use admin commands when not needed (except fun commands like admintest or bigtext or smth) in acient greek.
[ ] ban/punishment
[ ] undo of previous decision / unban
[X] admin / [ ] user attitude adjustment
related to following bad activities in game:
[ ]base attacker: ( )kill RC/OM ( )killed important stuff ( )just bleed
[ ]team attacker: ( )killed with no reason ( )just bleed
[ ] glitcher: [ ]reached outside-map location [ ]others gameplay
[ ] cheater: suspected [ ]aimbot [ ]wallhack [ ] /msg spam [ ]other
[X] admin unwarranted (*) kick ( ) mute ( ) other
...related to what that Admin claims to be (*)decon ( )tk ( )other
PLAYER:
nickname: Reaper
level: [ ]dunno [ ] unregistered [ ]player lvl 1-5... [X]admin lvl...7?
other info: hi Lancer
----------
DEMO(s): probably not needed as there is detailed description
SCREEN(s): -
---------
DETAILS OF GAME EVENT:
ON DATE: 2012-10-21, TIME: 13:30 (GTM+2) ON MAP: Mission 1
With teams count (A-H) : 1 vs 2
-> mission1 starts, I bet people will vote other map
-> I decon egg, on this map I might as well do it, initial egs will die and Im alone
-> someone calls mapchange vote
-> I decon all but last egg.
-> mapchange vote will pass. I vote F2 for lol but it passes still
-> I decon last egg right before it passes and suicide
-> vote passed
-> Humans won
What might normally be a [bad] decon, is totally o.k. in this case, because:
1) decon initiall stuff on this fun-map is not any problem. I could build new eggs if by any chance more people would join or vote would not pass
2) map will change anyway
3) entire Aliens team agreed on this (me
4) entire H team also wanted change map
5) EDITED/ADDED: in the unlikely event that in 3 seconds someone joins and wants to play this map I was 100% of the time able to still return to normal game (build OM then eggs), right to the point when vote passed
Since there is no player that had any different outcome of game,
so this is "victimless" crime, so not a crime.
So kick/ban was not needed.
New admins, hold your horses with the new commands, k?
REQUESTED SOLUTION:
Lancer should join Iain and Tyr in that locker.
And write 100 times on blackboard "I will not use admin commands when not needed (except fun commands like admintest or bigtext or smth) in acient greek.
DETAILS OF GAME EVENT:
ON DATE: 2012-10-21, TIME: 13:30 (GTM+2) ON MAP: Mission 1
With teams count (A-H) : 1 vs 2
-> mission1 starts, I bet people will vote other map I did vote UTCS
-> I decon egg, on this map I might as well do it, initial egs will die and Im alone True, but why not keep them for other members wanted to join the game?
-> someone calls mapchange vote I did - UTCS
-> I decon all but last egg. false, check demo(you decon last egg) & screenshot
-> mapchange vote will pass. I vote F2 for lol but it passes still 2 no, 2 yes - Still insecurity
-> I decon last egg right before it passes and suicide In that timespawn, there were still 10 seconds left before suicide
-> vote passed No vote has passed - check screenshot nano (voted for UTCS)
-> Humans won Last granger (you) Suicided
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7292 ... decon2.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4955 ... decon1.jpg
Demo
http://www.4shared.com/file/NeO-ICVI/epical.html
Last edited by Lancer on Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Spl@
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Not available. Apparently, the file's been removed…
Anyway. Technically, ban; but, under the circumstances as described (game ended by a vote), ‘making sure that the game is ended’ is irrelevant or at least only a minor problem: “you get away with that oneâ€. However, should it happen such that a vote is cut short and as a result fails to be passed…
Oh look. Killed again. Back to the tent…
- epicaldude
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Be cool and upload it to http://freenetproject.org But its hard to upload and then to download actually.Lancer wrote:The vote didn't pass, he deconned the egg before it passed, or did not pass (as it was 2-2) - Will reupload the demo, got an idea where i can?
So votes:
People that wanted to change map:
- me (obviously)
- AMS (vote)
- Bluentaur (vote)
- ? Xforcegamer (deconed RC)
People that wanted to keep map maybe (didn't want UTCS)
- invisible
So 1 human speced and the other/only H deconed RC
- epicaldude
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Although this was a "decon" (i.e. intended to alter the flow of the game). I think that when applying the rules it is also important to think about the intent of the the player.Lancer wrote:PS:
As this is a legit decon - Requesting a 1-3 day ban, or something else felt appropriate.
Now, whilst epicaldude was being a prat (as expected of him). I think that he wasn't trying to harm the progress of the game simply "messing around" at the end thinking the game was definitely going to end.
Whilst not defending his actions as being the correct thing to do. I think that the kick was warranted but that any further action would be a bit excessive.
Don't know why I'm defending him when he was just complaining about me
Ah well.
Just my two cents
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- BillyRazOr
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Hi!!!! I'm new of RCZ member (as N7 clan of NICE member)...
I just got (want) to complain about a person. Why some people want to banned me because in months ago, i saw a person was banned me as i'm decon reactor and replace safety places. I'm not doing bad person. He banned me for no reason but i don't know who was it.
Help me with my problems.....
BillyRazOr
I just got (want) to complain about a person. Why some people want to banned me because in months ago, i saw a person was banned me as i'm decon reactor and replace safety places. I'm not doing bad person. He banned me for no reason but i don't know who was it.
Help me with my problems.....
BillyRazOr
- epicaldude
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Hi, you should open a new forum thread for this and write what is your nick used on the server. Are you currently banned?BillyRazOr wrote:Hi!!!! I'm new of RCZ member (as N7 clan of NICE member)...
I just got (want) to complain about a person. Why some people want to banned me because in months ago, i saw a person was banned me as i'm decon reactor and replace safety places. I'm not doing bad person. He banned me for no reason but i don't know who was it.
Help me with my problems.....
BillyRazOr
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