Too long ban

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(PL) cool boy · #1 Post by **(PL) cool boy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:41 pm

Admin "Themuffinman" ban me for "international teamkill" for 7 days and i just kill 2 grangers

(PL) cool boy · #2 Post by **(PL) cool boy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:41 pm

7days is too long better be 1 day or 30 minutes...

TheMuffinMann · #3 Post by **TheMuffinMann** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:22 pm

You know, as the reason stated: You requested others to do similar.

TheMuffinMann · #4 Post by **TheMuffinMann** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:36 pm

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?13ulgb05hrc1fal

There's the proof.

(PL) cool boy · #5 Post by **(PL) cool boy** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:58 pm

I just snipe 2 grangers (i want more but no snipes).and 7 days is too loooooooong!

TheMuffinMann · #6 Post by **TheMuffinMann** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:02 pm

The amount doesn't matter that much.

- You teamkilled within your base intentionally
- You requested others to do the same
- You've stated right now that you want to teamkill more
- You have nothing speaking against the ban

So reconsider your argumentation.

[{USATREM}] !Gunther! · #7 Post by **[{USATREM}] !Gunther!** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:48 pm

(PL) cool boy wrote:I just snipe 2 grangers (i want more but no snipes).and 7 days is too loooooooong!

But just think: when you come back, you won't want to teamkill again! It's like magic! (For only 12 payments of $19.99!)

epicaldude · #8 Post by **epicaldude** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:59 pm

I would say team killing grangers in normal condition is hadly an offence, since at worse all that this does is accidentially helping them to build fast at cost of the _offender_ and 0 evo cost to "victim".

E.g. as a granger I would like if someone teamkills me on ubp sever

Not saying the ban is invalid, but 30 minute kick, or a day imo would do.

TheMuffinMann · #9 Post by **TheMuffinMann** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:16 am

Well, since there has not been any talk about helping the Grangers build, such assumption cannot be made.

So this excuse is invalid.

Teamkilling in general is to be considered as an offence, unless the person being teamkilled is fine with that, but as the Grangers never agreed to being teamkilled, the offense still stands upright.

So this excuse is invalid too.

A kick, nor a short-span-ban will settle this matter, as cool boy needs to learn that teamkilling is, no matter whom or under that circumstanze excusable.

Teamkilling Battlegrangers is allowed, rules say that.
Teamkilling any member, when he asks for it, is allowed.

ONLY under these circumstanzes teamkilling is allowed.
This also counts for bleeding.

It doesn't matter whether a 4dmg granger spit will do the damage or a 110hp goon snipe. One just leads faster to a death than the other.

Bleeding is annoying, it leads to teamkills and it can cause the server to lose players.