(hearsay) admin TheMuffinMan kicks (or mute?) without need?
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- epicaldude
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(hearsay) admin TheMuffinMan kicks (or mute?) without need?
Requesting:
[ ] ban/punishment ; [X] admin / [ ] user attitude adjustment
[ ] undo of previous decision / unban / etc
related to following bad activities in game:
[ ]base attacker: ( )kill RC/OM ( )killed important stuff ( )just bleed
[ ]team attacker: ( )killed with no reason ( )just bleed
[ ] glitcher: [ ]reached outside-map location [ ]others gameplay
[X] unwarranted ( ) long-ban (*) kick (?) mute (*)other(cancel vote)
...that was placed for allaged ( )decon ( )tk ( )other ( )no-reason
...by an ( ) admin ( ) player
[ ] cheater: suspected [ ]aimbot [ ]wallhack [ ] /msg spam [ ]other
PLAYER:
nickname: TheMuffinMan
level: [ ]dunno [ ] unregistered [ ]player lvl 1-5... [X]admin lvl...7?
other info: MuffinMan is new (restored) admin
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DEMO(s): on demand
SCREEN(s): on demand
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DETAILS OF GAME EVENT:
ON DATE: 2012-11-03, TIME: 21:00 (PL time) ON MAP: irrevelant
With teams count (A-H) : ~10 vs ~10
-> (???)
-> (Yalt kicked by TheMuffinMan?)
-> player yalt (registered,lvl2?) said (on IRC, but admins e.g. Rotat where not online) that he was kicked unfairly by admin TheMuffinMan
-> when I joined the game later, yalt was back in game
-> I called vote ~"was yalt muted in this/last game"
-> TheMuffinMan canceled the vote. But he responded to the question instead so no big problem here ("no need to state the obvious")
-> Also other play .. Galt? was Muted. and was unmute by another admin - Ghost(?). If he was also muted by Muffin then I would like to ask why, players that where there seemed to also ask this question
ACTIONS TAKEN:
Epical posted this forum report since yalt dind't
REQUESTED SOLUTION:
-> why was Yalt kicked, was this unneeded?
-> why was that other player Muted, was it by Muffin or other admin, if yes then was it unneded action?
Please agree with admin(s) on future conduct to avoid unneeded admin interventions?
[ ] ban/punishment ; [X] admin / [ ] user attitude adjustment
[ ] undo of previous decision / unban / etc
related to following bad activities in game:
[ ]base attacker: ( )kill RC/OM ( )killed important stuff ( )just bleed
[ ]team attacker: ( )killed with no reason ( )just bleed
[ ] glitcher: [ ]reached outside-map location [ ]others gameplay
[X] unwarranted ( ) long-ban (*) kick (?) mute (*)other(cancel vote)
...that was placed for allaged ( )decon ( )tk ( )other ( )no-reason
...by an ( ) admin ( ) player
[ ] cheater: suspected [ ]aimbot [ ]wallhack [ ] /msg spam [ ]other
PLAYER:
nickname: TheMuffinMan
level: [ ]dunno [ ] unregistered [ ]player lvl 1-5... [X]admin lvl...7?
other info: MuffinMan is new (restored) admin
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DEMO(s): on demand
SCREEN(s): on demand
---------
DETAILS OF GAME EVENT:
ON DATE: 2012-11-03, TIME: 21:00 (PL time) ON MAP: irrevelant
With teams count (A-H) : ~10 vs ~10
-> (???)
-> (Yalt kicked by TheMuffinMan?)
-> player yalt (registered,lvl2?) said (on IRC, but admins e.g. Rotat where not online) that he was kicked unfairly by admin TheMuffinMan
-> when I joined the game later, yalt was back in game
-> I called vote ~"was yalt muted in this/last game"
-> TheMuffinMan canceled the vote. But he responded to the question instead so no big problem here ("no need to state the obvious")
-> Also other play .. Galt? was Muted. and was unmute by another admin - Ghost(?). If he was also muted by Muffin then I would like to ask why, players that where there seemed to also ask this question
ACTIONS TAKEN:
Epical posted this forum report since yalt dind't
REQUESTED SOLUTION:
-> why was Yalt kicked, was this unneeded?
-> why was that other player Muted, was it by Muffin or other admin, if yes then was it unneded action?
Please agree with admin(s) on future conduct to avoid unneeded admin interventions?
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I think it was because of the *nazi* thing / vengeance. Some idiot bleeded constandly and even tked me. I gave him a shoot too and after that he didnt changed his behavior. Callvote kick was cancelled by Muffin (NO REASON!) and he banned me for intentional tk. Muffin also did ridiculous /warn stuff without any sense. Muffin can not handle admin.
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To my defense, Yalt did the teamkill and I reacted on that.
If the player teamkilled you he get's a warning and eventually a kickvote, but if he accidentally bleeds you, you gotta accept that. Especially when he did riflespam.
You got hit, you intentionally fired back. Either you take the hits and die, so that justice can be done, or you can go on talking some random shit.
I need not make a screenshot to proove that I was in the right.
So to sum this up: You teamkilled him, intentionally, I kicked you.
I know that you are holding a grudge against me, and as you are a level 4 I will have to be more careful on your actions as people cannot call kick/mute votes on you.
So either you put up with it, or you can fuck off. As simple as that. So far you, epical and one or two others are against me, while the rest of the people think that I am doing my job good. So you cannot call me incompetent. This is contradictive. A minority does not have the better opinion than the majority that has known me for longer.
If the player teamkilled you he get's a warning and eventually a kickvote, but if he accidentally bleeds you, you gotta accept that. Especially when he did riflespam.
You got hit, you intentionally fired back. Either you take the hits and die, so that justice can be done, or you can go on talking some random shit.
I need not make a screenshot to proove that I was in the right.
So to sum this up: You teamkilled him, intentionally, I kicked you.
I know that you are holding a grudge against me, and as you are a level 4 I will have to be more careful on your actions as people cannot call kick/mute votes on you.
So either you put up with it, or you can fuck off. As simple as that. So far you, epical and one or two others are against me, while the rest of the people think that I am doing my job good. So you cannot call me incompetent. This is contradictive. A minority does not have the better opinion than the majority that has known me for longer.
A signature, for me?
Stop it, you. :$
Stop it, you. :$
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Delusions and conceits are bad basis for being an admin. I don't want to be part of your private war. Neither ur friend but the point is: you ban / kick / mute and /warn for reasons u make up (your own set of rules?) and thats why im writing here. Today you overact by banning another player (josef /5 days?) for tk that i never saw in console (yes, i have demo of it). Also u tried to provoke me, probably to create/find new several reasons why i should be banned and no longer lvl4 (yes i remember ur bitching about *WHY IS HE LVL4*).So either you put up with it, or you can fuck off. As simple as that. So far you, epical and one or two others are against me, while the rest of the people think that I am doing my job good. So you cannot call me incompetent. This is contradictive. A minority does not have the better opinion than the majority that has known me for longer.
I don't like ur arrogant airs on server! Sooner or later it will be ur *hanging matter*.
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Nurse, 50 mg benzodiazepines, stat.TheMuffinMann wrote:So far you, epical and one or two others are against me
I'm not "against you". I want good (minimal, fair, smooth) admining on "my" server.
Either way,
since there seem to be some inclarity about what was done by who why re-watch the demo / screens / console and write again exactly what happened?
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You are occupied by playing the game yalt, while I actually watch the server. Iain asked me to keep an eye on Josef as he is said to be prone to bleed and teamkill, that is what I did. I spectated him and guess what... I saw him attempting to snipe Joe twice. Just because you are incapable of seeing it, I do.
This is not to be questioned, simply because you assume that because you haven't seen it, that it never has happened.
Sometimes you cannot see everything, as you have to play too.
About the review
Level 0 does bleed and one teamkill accidentally as is spamming rifle.
-> Does get an immediate kickvote and no warning
Level 4 does bleed in revenge and teamkills too.
-> Why not kick him for doing it on purpose and not being a good example
Hence the level 4.
Yalt, you have more responsibilities. As a level 4 you simply have to put up with spammers and newbies. There is no other way around, but if you decide to bleed in revenge and teamkill. Then you're bound to be kicked.
and as you are immune to votes I cannot do it the other way.
Also about the provocative part.
I am just doing the same things you do to me, as always. You troll, I troll. As simple as that, I just abide to the rules and if you then do a mistake, you have lost your own game. That's all.
I abide to the rules provided on the adminpage. If they don't suit you, then I am sorry to say that you haven't read the rules.
I warn, mute, kick and ban with purpose and reason. If you are incapable of seeing it, it doesn't mean that I am wrong. To say the least, you are not more than I am, you aren't my lesser either. So you simply cannot stoop above me and pretend as if you were superior than I, because that is delusion and deceit.
I enquire and do quite some research, you may not be able to see it as you are busy raging on me with the constant nagging. Admin abuse once more, abuse this, power abuse that... I always hear you complaining about me, often with no reason. Almost every time I have backup from other players, admins and registered people alike. You are always questioning me, so I do have the right to wonder whether you are the one trying to make this personal or not.
This is not to be questioned, simply because you assume that because you haven't seen it, that it never has happened.
Sometimes you cannot see everything, as you have to play too.
About the review
Level 0 does bleed and one teamkill accidentally as is spamming rifle.
-> Does get an immediate kickvote and no warning
Level 4 does bleed in revenge and teamkills too.
-> Why not kick him for doing it on purpose and not being a good example
Hence the level 4.
Yalt, you have more responsibilities. As a level 4 you simply have to put up with spammers and newbies. There is no other way around, but if you decide to bleed in revenge and teamkill. Then you're bound to be kicked.
and as you are immune to votes I cannot do it the other way.
Also about the provocative part.
I am just doing the same things you do to me, as always. You troll, I troll. As simple as that, I just abide to the rules and if you then do a mistake, you have lost your own game. That's all.
I abide to the rules provided on the adminpage. If they don't suit you, then I am sorry to say that you haven't read the rules.
I warn, mute, kick and ban with purpose and reason. If you are incapable of seeing it, it doesn't mean that I am wrong. To say the least, you are not more than I am, you aren't my lesser either. So you simply cannot stoop above me and pretend as if you were superior than I, because that is delusion and deceit.
I enquire and do quite some research, you may not be able to see it as you are busy raging on me with the constant nagging. Admin abuse once more, abuse this, power abuse that... I always hear you complaining about me, often with no reason. Almost every time I have backup from other players, admins and registered people alike. You are always questioning me, so I do have the right to wonder whether you are the one trying to make this personal or not.
A signature, for me?
Stop it, you. :$
Stop it, you. :$
I didnt bleed him and i warned him.
Try to argue on _facts_ not stuff u flatter oneself
So you banned him for nothing. Tk-attempt ist not a TK.attempting to snipe Joe
Who set this rule? You?Yalt, you have more responsibilities.
nonsense. This shows just ur narrowmindness. Who of the players wanted me to be banned? Ok i get it: u looked it up in their minds.and as you are immune to votes I cannot do it the other way.
pure lie. Actually i refuse to talk to you. I also didnt talk at all. You just making this up.I am just doing the same things you do to me, as always. You troll
Nice attempt to distract but it just inverts the truth. I never said anything like that.To say the least, you are not more than I am
Gosh, who said that? On which planet ur living?So you simply cannot stoop above me and pretend as if you were superior than I
Im sure u wish its like this but i really dont care about u. But i report all shit ur doing and thats all.I enquire and do quite some research, you may not be able to see it as you are busy raging on me with the constant nagging. Admin abuse once more, abuse this, power abuse that... I always hear you complaining about me, often with no reason. Almost every time I have backup from other players, admins and registered people alike. You are always questioning me, so I do have the right to wonder whether you are the one trying to make this personal or not.
Try to argue on _facts_ not stuff u flatter oneself
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Joe also teamkilled earlier, I just added the two attempts (call them bleeds if you so wish). I have just waited for approval of hostile behaviour
Society has set the rule.
Who of the players wanted him to be banned, so far only you.
You refuse to talk to me, fact is you complain about me constantly.
So far I have seen no solid proof that I have made any mistakes. No visible/audible evidence. Yet you accuse me of quite a lot.
I am living on planet earth, perhaps a different lifestyle?
Re-read your sentence Yalt.
-> You are out to get me, yet do not care about me.
So isn't it obvious that you are twisting the truth to get me demoted?
Society has set the rule.
Who of the players wanted him to be banned, so far only you.
You refuse to talk to me, fact is you complain about me constantly.
So far I have seen no solid proof that I have made any mistakes. No visible/audible evidence. Yet you accuse me of quite a lot.
I am living on planet earth, perhaps a different lifestyle?
Re-read your sentence Yalt.
-> You are out to get me, yet do not care about me.
So isn't it obvious that you are twisting the truth to get me demoted?
A signature, for me?
Stop it, you. :$
Stop it, you. :$