Request to yalt to release his sources, as required by GPL

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nalf · #1 Post by **nalf** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:04 pm

This is a copy of my email to yalt:

Hi Yalt,

I asked you twice about the sources of your mod. You didn't even bother to reply to me, which is kind of sad, considering I helped you with debugging it and you build on my work.

I'm reminding you friendly that Tremulous is licensed under GPL. Therefore, you're required to make available the complete source codes any modifications you have done under the same license to any user who asks for it. I, as the author of my mods, have the right to enforce the license. By not releasing the sources you're violating the license as well as the principles of open-source. Therefore I'm requesting you to publish the source codes under GPL (or make it available to me under GPL). Otherwise remove permanetnly any work from your server that is based on my mods. (Note that if the original Trem authors issue a similar request, you'll have to either publish the sources or shut it down completely.)

If you want to keep the assets secret, that's OK, they're your own work and Trem's assets are licensed differently anyway.

You've made some good work on your server. Don't spoil it by being greedy.

Note that I'm publishing a copy of the email on forums, this is a public thing and people have the right to know. Any player has the right to ask for the sources.

Best regards,
Nalf

Dne 07/01/2013 09:24 AM

Hi Yalt,

how is it going? I see that your sever is popular, that's nice.
Can you publish the sources somewhere? Or send them to me?

Thanks,
Nalf

Dne 7.6.2013 21:13
Hi Yalt, where can I download the code of your server? Do you plan putting it on github/bitbucket/etc.? That way, it'd be easier to suggest patches as well as have a place to report bugs.
Bye, Nalf

imp · #2 Post by **imp** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:20 pm

Still no answer ?

Fang152 · #3 Post by **Fang152** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:01 am

Nalfy did you post on his forums too

nalf · #4 Post by **nalf** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:18 am

Good idea Fang, done here.

Redman · #5 Post by **Redman** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:51 pm

ArchZombie0x requested the source code as well (also threatened to escalate it if yalt won't publish the code). Result:

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20130713.log&#58;14328&#58;00&#58;54&#58;53&#58; ^3ban&#58;^7 ^3&#91;yefusa&#93;ArchZombie0x^7 has been banned by ^0yalt^7 duration&#58; 22.6 years, reason&#58; banned by admin
20130713.log&#58;15644&#58;01&#58;01&#58;15&#58; &#91;^7S^7&#93; &#91;ADMIN&#93;^0yalt^7&#58; ^6lol and this archzombie idiot thought he can come here and threaten me

I'd like to warn you that Yalt is really infantile. I was declared a traitor, demoted, permabanned on both the server (reason: $) and the server's forums for... being objective about his mod and suggesting balance changes (I even gave him about 200kb of code for the server, not sure if he added it).

Fang152 · #6 Post by **Fang152** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:07 pm

Didn't archzombie set up yalt's forum for him

Weed · #7 Post by **Weed** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:31 pm

yalt is a douchebag.

Fang152 · #8 Post by **Fang152** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:13 am

Weed wrote:yalt is a douchebag.

TheMuffinMann · #9 Post by **TheMuffinMann** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:25 am

Funfact: Been demoted after being 1 whole day inactive.
Funfact: His forum messages start with: We miss you...
Funfact: They aren't fun, but amusing...

grmg.pl · #10 Post by **grmg.pl** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:51 pm

His old forum is where Nalf posted. His new forum was(!) edge.freeforums.org, but it's in Sindi (a form of Arabic i think) now.

And yeah, he's a fucking weakling. He wanted to ban lamefun for "threatening him". You know, the usual lamefun threats about Java and aliens cheating.

imp · #11 Post by **imp** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:58 pm

I am sick of this yalt-shit

Fang152 · #12 Post by **Fang152** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:21 pm

I have an idea! Let's all move to RCZ

imp · #13 Post by **imp** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:25 pm

Fang152 wrote:I have an idea! Let's all move to RCZ

Hmmm... interesting idea

Spl@ · #14 Post by **Spl@** » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:05 am

I (as â€œGPL Compliance Is Requiredâ€) have just been banned for asking about it.

Yalt clearly has no intention of releasing source. This is unfortunate since it means that he is therefore automatically in breach of the licence for Tremulous and has no right to distribute the QVM code for his mod.

The ideal situation is that the source is released (in full, for the current and, as and when, all future versions of the mod). I'm quite sure that Yalt would get some help with maintaining and improving the mod.

I therefore suggest that either the source is released or the copyright holders take appropriate action.

Lancer · #15 Post by **Lancer** » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:57 am

Spl@ wrote:I (as â€œGPL Compliance Is Requiredâ€) have just been banned for asking about it.

Yalt clearly has no intention of releasing source. This is unfortunate since it means that he is therefore automatically in breach of the licence for Tremulous and has no right to distribute the QVM code for his mod.

The ideal situation is that the source is released (in full, for the current and, as and when, all future versions of the mod). I'm quite sure that Yalt would get some help with maintaining and improving the mod.

I therefore suggest that either the source is released or the copyright holders take appropriate action.

And they care, because tremulous 2 was being fought.