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epicaldude
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Iain mutes - now this is absurd Reply with quote

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Now this is totally absurd.

- I'm playing nicelly

- on intermission (end score table) I paste 3 lines (of general lols like "~~~~splashhhh~~~~ this is flood lol")

- for that, by Iain, I am muted in ANOTHER, NEXT game

- despite attempts to win I can't synchronize basi bombing with teammates

- players ask WTF am I mute
- people say it's unfair mute

- Kenny called unmute vote for me
- iain canceled

- someone called unmute for me again
- canceled
- people callvote iain is dictator Wink it passes (or was cancled? was 5-1)
- etc. etc.

Now that is totally uncalled for behavior of admin I seen on this server ever,
except when TheThing changed nickname and /msg spammed me day after previous game with him.

At least when I or certain other admins are "trolling" we do not need to ruin game play you know.
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yalt.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a very Serious problem indeed.

Of grave importance to the matters of universes.

Maybe we should hire some thugs to arrest and/or beat up the infringerers - I heard that USA FBI agents are able and willing to attack other countries to stop this type of warcrime, just ask Kim dot Com of megaupload.




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yalt. wrote:
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This is a very Serious problem indeed.

Of grave importance to the matters of universes.

Maybe we should hire some thugs to arrest and/or beat up the infringerers - I heard that USA FBI agents are able and willing to attack other countries to stop this type of warcrime, just ask Kim dot Com of megaupload.




What you quote was used in the opposite way, to NOT attack (mute) someone unless this is very needed. So yes this also applies here, saying 3 line binds is not reason to take action especially in intermission where everyone writes and comments and all
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yalt. wrote:
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This is a very Serious problem indeed.

Of grave importance to the matters of universes.

Maybe we should hire some thugs to arrest and/or beat up the infringerers - I heard that USA FBI agents are able and willing to attack other countries to stop this type of warcrime, just ask Kim dot Com of megaupload.




lol.

Well I will paste you this when you are again muted yourself Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I will paste you this when you are again muted yourself Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yalt. wrote:
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Well I will paste you this when you are again muted yourself Rolling Eyes




I will come at your ass right now foool, join server Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will come at your ass right now foool, join server


I did a song what would happened if i join honey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j6rKUnszpI

btw: u pay me if i do F3 on poll?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alright... lets go over the facts of this case:

First of all, this is rotas comment considering your behavior:

Rotacak wrote:
So, I considering it like spam and asking epicaldude to stop spam everywhere with these bullshists, or any other bullshits.


"All other bullshits" I would consider baiting admins with your petty binds to be bullshit. Since you decided not to show that bind in your post (lie by omission) this is the bind that you used:



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_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_ *Floooshhh* this is a 'flood' so that the invisible redman can get his hate on


You were clearly playing with fire in this and you happened to get burnt. You had clear warning from the server owner to stop your bs and you didnt.

I understand that you had to test the boundaries and see what you could get away with. I stopped you, move on.

There is very little point in muting you for 2 seconds at the end of the game (probably why you did it then), so yes you got a 5-minute mute at the beginning of the next game. Actions have consequences. Just because a new match is started doesn't what happened in the last 30 seconds of the last match is forgotten.

Eg. If someone basenaded at the end of the last map, and I didnt have time to do a kick, there is no reason that I shouldnt kick you at the beginning of the next map.


Now onto the next point: The unmute votes:

kenny/whoever was the second guy calling for a unmute vote.

First of all, kenny/other guy didnt see the reason that I wrote and that was clarified after I muted you. (This was informed after the votes have been cancelled)

If an admin decides that you need a form of punishment then other users should not immediately begin to call votes to undo punishment. (Hence why normal users cant do votes to unkick/unban) . They can ask in game and say it was unwarranted and maybe I will change my mind. The other alternative is here on the forum/on the irc. I am more than willing to defend my actions and to explain why I did what I did with all the necessary proof.

The "iain is a dictator" vote was cancelled by lizard within 5 seconds of it being started, so dont try pinning that one on me.

and dont etc etc me, there was nothing else or you would have written it so stop trying to make false implications.

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At least when I or certain other admins are "trolling" we do not need to ruin game play you know.


Unfortunately the number of times that I have had people complain to me about your trolling would seem to indicate that it does have a rather large effect on gameplay and the community.

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Now that is totally uncalled for behavior of admin I seen on this server ever,


It wasnt uncalled for and you knew that you were testing the boundaries. Why don't you just accept that you have finally made one mistake to far and move on?

Just play nicely and stop annoying people?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there any way to make Epical Dude stop using racist language all the time? Sentences like 'all Germans worship Hitler' and words like 'nigga', 'nigger' and what not should have no place on the server. Not even when you paid for your admin status.

[PS] It would also be great if he didn't spam useless polls all the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mystache wrote:
Is there any way to make Epical Dude stop using racist language all the time?


Even 100% political correct, accepted by Commission of Christian Old Ladies joke,
said in INTERMISSION so it doesn't interrupt game,
still resulted in entire new game ruined for me.

Good job Iain despite your testing boundries bullshit - even most nazi serwers don't frown upon saying shit on end-scores.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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epicaldude wrote:
mystache wrote:
Is there any way to make Epical Dude stop using racist language all the time?


Even 100% political correct, accepted by Commission of Christian Old Ladies joke,
said in INTERMISSION so it doesn't interrupt game,
still resulted in entire new game ruined for me.

Good job Iain despite your testing boundries bullshit - even most nazi serwers don't frown upon saying shit on end-scores.


1. DIdnt ruin the whole game for you, it was a five minute mute out of a 60 min odd game.

2. You were told to stop your bs, so stop it completely, simples

3. I've had enough of this debate. I'm not going to argue with you.

*waiting for rota/snr admin to comment
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epicaldude
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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iain wrote:

2. You were told to stop your bs, so stop it completely, simples


Oh, but I did:
- I said to Rota don't worry there will be other [better] jokes too, so I did as promised:
- didn't include nigger pollocks or even mexicans!
- 100% political correct
- not repeated: was used since ONE DAY
- didn't flood, only one time 3 lines
- didn't say during game but on INTERMISSION
- invi was not on server and even if he was then:
- it was a friendly joke between 2 people

and stillll you had to use your admin commands!
yeah you're relaxed admin not a hater totally...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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epicaldude wrote:
- on intermission (end score table) I paste 3 lines (of general lols like "~~~~splashhhh~~~~ this is flood lol")

epicaldude wrote:
- for that, by Iain, I am muted in ANOTHER, NEXT game

epicaldude wrote:
resulted in entire new game ruined

iain wrote:
it was a five minute mute out of a 60 min odd game.

Conclusion:
Since iain's mute was justified (Epical broke a rule), Epical is fully responsible for ruining a 60 minutes long game. This also answers one of Epical's questions in a parallel thread:

epicaldude wrote:
Show me ONE CASE where I ruined game play
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Redman wrote:
epicaldude wrote:
- on intermission (end score table) I paste 3 lines (of general lols like "~~~~splashhhh~~~~ this is flood lol")

epicaldude wrote:
- for that, by Iain, I am muted in ANOTHER, NEXT game

epicaldude wrote:
resulted in entire new game ruined

iain wrote:
it was a five minute mute out of a 60 min odd game.

Conclusion:
Since iain's mute was justified (Epical broke a rule), Epical is fully responsible for ruining a 60 minutes long game. This also answers one of Epical's questions in a parallel thread:

epicaldude wrote:
Show me ONE CASE where I ruined game play


Lol this is totally retarded, because to start with rules are not broken - this kind of thing never should be considered spam.
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