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grmg.pl
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And they care, because tremulous 2 was being fought.
I bet VAL's right hand fingers that Timbo isn't gonna bother half as much as he did with T2. He threw a tantrum b/c of money, the license was just a pretext.

The best you can do is to ask Yalt's server provider to close it down for not releasing source, but since Yalt paid them, they're probably gonna tell you to fuck off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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grmg.pl wrote:
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And they care, because tremulous 2 was being fought.
I bet VAL's right hand fingers that Timbo isn't gonna bother half as much as he did with T2. He threw a tantrum b/c of money, the license was just a pretext.

The best you can do is to ask Yalt's server provider to close it down for not releasing source, but since Yalt paid them, they're probably gonna tell you to fuck off.


What will his server provider care about him not releasing some mod code?
.gosh it's been a long time since I posted here..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What will his server provider care about him not releasing some mod code?


Technically he would be hosting illegal content on their servers...

*updated phrasing (assuming all those Monolith textures are paid for, haha)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh great, I got banned from Edge for making a formal statement?
Breaking a contract is illegal, plain and simple. If Yalt breached a contract (I couldn't care less, honestly) then yes the content on that server is illegal.

Now I get this juvenile crap about 'not fucking with admins' or 'taking it up the ass'? Seriously? How old are you people?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pikachu wrote:
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What will his server provider care about him not releasing some mod code?


Technically he's hosting illegal content on their servers...


Bottom line is... Nothing is illegal on the server (if it was , it wouldn't be still hosted) , technically you just said nonsense.

*And whats this about releasing the source?
What are your bigger motives behind this?
Seriously , because of hackers or bugged servers , Yalt will not release it , until its ready...


The source will be released in its final form/state , Whenever that happens...


Its just Silly pointing your fingers at Yalt , when you have a Tyrant in your back yard... Yes Rotacak...


Please do remember that Rotacak held his source back for RCZ , for years....

Did anyone cried his ass out for Rota's source during these years?
Doesn't look like it...
Otherwise we wouldn't be having this topic!


After all this ranting about... Its gonna get released in the future , so Yalt doesn't care what you people talk about.
Its done , when its done!


And lets hope that we are done here...
...this is what you wanted to hear , right?


Now i bid you Farewell...
Since this might be my last post , on this Forum...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bottom line is... Nothing is illegal on the server (if it was , it wouldn't be still hosted) , technically you just said nonsense.


There's plenty of illegal textures and sound files that come from proprietary licensed software in the map we were playing when you guys pulled your little stunt. And yes, if the Tremulous license states (I haven't read it) that you should release source code that is based upon it, then you are breaching contract by not doing so. You may not like to hear that, and I make no moral judgements about that (I don't care if Rota does it either), but these are the facts. It would be nice if you could simply acknowledge that and move on, rather than punishing people who just want to have a good time playing on the only populated server in the game with your pointless and unfounded scare tactics.

I have no problem with Yalt's mod, it's not my problem anyway and I just don't give a shit. I do have an issue with you using your admin privileges to remove me from the game for simply stating the truth. You guys virtually own 1.2, so if you feel like banning me then that's the end of it for me. I just think that's a deplorable use of the authority you have.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing was signed, nothing was agreed so no contract. There is a licence document, and that lists various conditions which you must meet for it to be legal for you to distribute binaries.

Yalt is currently in breach; he and/or other admins are being idiots by taking action with extreme prejudice against those of us who point this out. That is foolish and runs the risk of further inflaming the situation.

In English law, as I understand it, this is a civil matter given that no profit is being made and, as such, legal action can be taken over this should any of the copyright holders choose to do so; but profit from it and (again, AIUI) it becomes a criminal matter.

I do not know the German laws on the matter, but I do not expect significant difference.

(Also, why am I suspecting that it'll never quite be ready for release…)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RCZ source – looks like it's been there since October last year. (Also, Rotacak has updated the #rcz topic to show the source URL, and I may get one or two bugs fixed.)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If we all grab hands, we might revive Tremulous - at least the RCZ server.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^
Thats something i haven't seen here for a while
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imp wrote:
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Thats something i haven't seen here for a while


Nalf, redman etc work together = awesome mod = awesome gameplay.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i'm down! after summer i can play again, miss you guys Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Weed wrote:
i'm down! after summer i can play again, miss you guys Sad

Ye, i miss you guys too, and i honestly damn miss this freaking wonderful game! If i can give any help just ask! (f.e. new maps)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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come talk on the irc Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just to stir things a bit Very Happy

loki on yalt's forum wrote:
Well I really do not care about that yalt aka shithead. Wanted to try to write with him but he's paranoical premature dickhead,

F1 btw.
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